why is that not considered sandy related? >> it is weird because there are two different surveys when you look at these jobs numbers. one comes from the businesses. the businesses, they take that survey, november 12th, and the businesses are for the job creation number. the other survey is called a household survey. that's how we determine the unemployment rate. and part of that household survey is did you look for a job last week, yes, no, and why not? so a lot of people said weather related. when i was digging into the numbers, i said a normal november, weather related, about 60,000, here we had 300,000, that's one of the reasons we saw the unemployment rate go down. look, i want to feel good about the unemployment rate being low, but 7.7% happened because fewer people were part of the labor force. that's not the right reason that we wanted to see the jobless rate go down. >> absolutely. and i want to read you something that paul krugman wrote in the new york times earlier this week. he said, long-term unemployment remains